I noticed in a response 2 one off your fans. not all apostles were killed. John the disciple died a natural death didn’t as wasn’t murdered/killed so he could have passed on the right apostleship down by the laying of the hands, which then would mean the rightful church never left the earth.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
You are correct when you state that John was not murdered as were the others, but banished to the Greek Island of Patmos (Revelation 1:9). We believe, actually that he never did die, but was somehow translated and allowed to serve on the earth until the Savior’s Second Coming. (John 21:22 – 23)
I believe that in the dozens of accounts I have written on my web site describing the end of the “rightful” Church which Jesus organized, I have always tried to mention that John was banished to Patmos rather than martyred. If you found one that left that out, it would be most helpful if you could copy it and send it to me so we can correct it.
That the “rightful” Church survived or not is a matter of history. The Catholic and a few other orthodox churches claim to be the succession of the “rightful” Church but they claim that came through Peter and from certain bishops that passed the priesthood authority down. There were never any quorums of twelve apostles and prophets as the Savior organized his Church and as far as I know, the mainstream Christian Churches insist that this would not be because the ancient apostles wrote the New Testament, and thus we have their word, which is sufficient. Of course, Martin Luther, King Henry the 8th and others broke away from the Catholic Church in the middle ages giving rise to the thousands of Protestant Churches today, none of which, have apostles and prophets.
According to the scriptures, the lack of apostles and prophets who received revelation from the Lord in leading his Church and teaching his true gospel, merely meant that the churches without that source of divine revelation through prophets were led by men who taught the gospel according to their own interpretation.
7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. (Old Testament | Amos 3:7)
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
(New Testament | 2 Peter 1:20 – 21)
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
(New Testament | Galatians 1:11 – 12)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
(New Testament | Ephesians 4:11 – 14)
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
(New Testament | Ephesians 2:19 – 20)
That there would be a “falling away and then a restoration of the “rightful” Church is also quite clear in the scriptures and would take place before the Second Coming of Christ:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
(New Testament | Acts 3:21)
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
(New Testament | 2 Thessalonians 2:3)
I firmly believe that a “restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began” would surely include the “rightful” Church which Jesus organized and which Paul describes to the Ephesians as indicated above.
I also firmly believe that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is that “rightful” Church having been restored under the divine direction of the Lord and is led now by him as he reveals his will through living apostles and prophets. I am attaching a chapter we wrote on the subject of Apostles and Prophets, and there will be some redundancy.
Please let me know what you think and where you saw the omission in our answers of John banishment to Patmos.